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There are two front choke escapes in Krav Maga and both involve some sort of striking; either to the face or a knee/kick to the groin. Both are simpler than the BJJ ones you showed. The rear choke escape has some similarities to what you showed. We turn the same way and step behind but we also do a pluck at the hands and try to slip our head out. If it fails you still end up in a headlock rather than a rear choke.
Ok number 1) Great Video. I would like to address 2 maybe 3 points (as if anyoneās cares). 1st the front choke. This is not only SUPER common but VERY dangerous. I have witnessed for own eyes 3 occasions when someone has gotten choked to unconscious with this two hand choke. There was another that I didnāt see for myself but the result was fatal. All done by someone that was big enough to do it effectively. I do agree with the strike and more strikes but the immediate danger has to be addressed as well. The headlock the video is referring to is ALWAYS taught out of context. You never take a person backwards when there leading forwards. The defense works because their already leading backwards. If there not then take take them forwards 3rd. Thank you for your In-site in the rear-naked escape. I have been questioning that for YEARS. I teach it the same way you do but I have always doubted myself because Pedro teaches to go the other way and I had ASSUMED he knew best. From know on Iāll make up my own mind. Thank you for that šš¾. Iām your New subscriberšŖš¾
Excellent video. I feel like martial arts have benefited from the internet, maybe more than any other thing. Clearly terrible schools/instructors are easily exposed when, in the past, they would be able to operate with relative impunity. The exception to this rule is the self defense community. For some reason those guys have escaped the same scrutiny by and large.
Regarding the font choke, itās not as useless at the video makes it seem.
If the assailant pins the victim against the wall or against the ground and is actively leaning his/her weight into the choke while pressing thumbs into the windpipe, itās quite effective.
Thanks, Iām one of the black belt instructors he grifted video from in this clip.
A couple of the main reasons we teach this curriculum.
1. Itās a defined set of basics. I also coach Kali and Muay Thai. This vid represents an over simplification of the options available. As instructors, even Pedro Sauer offers that these techniques are limited in scope.
2. Itās not a move to make people look good. As he says, people who donāt have experience donāt know proper wrestling. Which is both why we need to teach headlock defense, as well the front choke. An aggressor whoās likely untrained is going to possibly front choke someone.
3. The movements in the Gracie self defense curriculum offer a lot of ideas on principles and mechanics. Anyone Iāve ever met who understands the self defense always has a better ground game than those who donāt.
4. He clearly doesnāt have the whole picture. Such as the shoulder slip, only turning one way. Of course we teach getting back into the headlock position as an option. It has nothing to do with money.
Thatās my opinion, but maybe Iāll do a call back video since he was so kind to put me and many of my peers in this clip.
As a black belt under Royce, I experienced a full range of human emotions watching this video! There was much that I agreed with, and a few points I thought were an unfair representation of Helioās basic curriculum and itās intention, or how self defense is taught and practiced in schools that make that the priority. Still, your video is awesome and really helpful, honestly. I chuckled a lot and thought deeply about my own beliefs and assumptions – thatās two wins. Thank you!
In my school I teach bjj while always keeping students aware of what can happen when striking is involved in that position. Wrestling base, bjj attacks and submissions. If someone puts you in a headlock, they go for a ride. You take muay Thai and boxing class to learn the striking.
I actively (to my partner) talk about how useless these moves are during in actual scenarios when we're drilling lol. I'm like this shit is so fake anyway
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My views are completely my own.
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great vid. can you make video on comparing leglocks for bjj vs mma?
There are two front choke escapes in Krav Maga and both involve some sort of striking; either to the face or a knee/kick to the groin. Both are simpler than the BJJ ones you showed. The rear choke escape has some similarities to what you showed. We turn the same way and step behind but we also do a pluck at the hands and try to slip our head out. If it fails you still end up in a headlock rather than a rear choke.
Dude, her feet left the ground! š
Ok number 1) Great Video. I would like to address 2 maybe 3 points (as if anyoneās cares). 1st the front choke. This is not only SUPER common but VERY dangerous. I have witnessed for own eyes 3 occasions when someone has gotten choked to unconscious with this two hand choke. There was another that I didnāt see for myself but the result was fatal. All done by someone that was big enough to do it effectively. I do agree with the strike and more strikes but the immediate danger has to be addressed as well. The headlock the video is referring to is ALWAYS taught out of context. You never take a person backwards when there leading forwards. The defense works because their already leading backwards. If there not then take take them forwards 3rd. Thank you for your In-site in the rear-naked escape. I have been questioning that for YEARS. I teach it the same way you do but I have always doubted myself because Pedro teaches to go the other way and I had ASSUMED he knew best. From know on Iāll make up my own mind. Thank you for that šš¾. Iām your New subscriberšŖš¾
Strike first, then double leg and mount (optimum time to make your point or end the fight), Ive pressure tested it and it always works.
If this guy knows so much, why not go up against a GJJ Black Belt and see how he fairs š¤·š»āāļø
How many atrocities have happened in the name of a Klondike bar sir?
Excellent video. I feel like martial arts have benefited from the internet, maybe more than any other thing. Clearly terrible schools/instructors are easily exposed when, in the past, they would be able to operate with relative impunity.
The exception to this rule is the self defense community. For some reason those guys have escaped the same scrutiny by and large.
Regarding the font choke, itās not as useless at the video makes it seem.
If the assailant pins the victim against the wall or against the ground and is actively leaning his/her weight into the choke while pressing thumbs into the windpipe, itās quite effective.
Also practicing
The wet willie is the offical MBJJ defense against the front choke
Watched 3 minutes into this video and I'm already subscribed. Finally someone who talks bluntly and talks sense. Excellent video so far
Thanks, Iām one of the black belt instructors he grifted video from in this clip.
A couple of the main reasons we teach this curriculum.
1. Itās a defined set of basics. I also coach Kali and Muay Thai. This vid represents an over simplification of the options available. As instructors, even Pedro Sauer offers that these techniques are limited in scope.
2. Itās not a move to make people look good. As he says, people who donāt have experience donāt know proper wrestling. Which is both why we need to teach headlock defense, as well the front choke. An aggressor whoās likely untrained is going to possibly front choke someone.
3. The movements in the Gracie self defense curriculum offer a lot of ideas on principles and mechanics. Anyone Iāve ever met who understands the self defense always has a better ground game than those who donāt.
4. He clearly doesnāt have the whole picture. Such as the shoulder slip, only turning one way. Of course we teach getting back into the headlock position as an option. It has nothing to do with money.
Thatās my opinion, but maybe Iāll do a call back video since he was so kind to put me and many of my peers in this clip.
Is BJJ good self defense? HELL YES!!! just learn to tepe em' too šš
Whatās the situation?
As a black belt under Royce, I experienced a full range of human emotions watching this video! There was much that I agreed with, and a few points I thought were an unfair representation of Helioās basic curriculum and itās intention, or how self defense is taught and practiced in schools that make that the priority. Still, your video is awesome and really helpful, honestly. I chuckled a lot and thought deeply about my own beliefs and assumptions – thatās two wins. Thank you!
Yes, best defense against being grabbed is always to hit them. Anything that is some convoluted multiple step defense just takes longer and may fail
Show us some of moves u would use in Self Defense tho
Mixed Martial arts is Effective
Could it be that the Gracies don't know shit about self defense?
hahahaha you punch im again great video
So is judo better for self defense
In my school I teach bjj while always keeping students aware of what can happen when striking is involved in that position. Wrestling base, bjj attacks and submissions. If someone puts you in a headlock, they go for a ride. You take muay Thai and boxing class to learn the striking.
3:28 "Just leave" xD
Got urself a sub
I actively (to my partner) talk about how useless these moves are during in actual scenarios when we're drilling lol. I'm like this shit is so fake anyway
Preach. I love it