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haha oh man you should see how ridiculous California laws are. Like one guy broke into someone's house by breaking and entering a window. His dumb ass cut himself then sued the owners because he hurt himself on their property even though he trespassed , vandalized and entered the owner's home.
The only self defense instructor who covered this subtle yet very important point. You are great Nick. And for everyone out there who isn't a blackbelt or something; martial art is just a part of self defense not wholly the thing. Learn the basics jab cross kick block, practice it and you are good to go.
great video Nick & responsible of you to cover it. As well as teaching I work doors in UK so I have to deal with the reality/legality of using force on a regular basis & it's interesting reading about the various countries interpretation of law in regards to self defense. UK law is very clear on self-defence. it says: If any person has an honestly held belief that he or another is in imminent danger, then he may use such force as is reasonable and necessary to avert that danger.
Furthermore, a person about to be attacked does not have to wait for his assailant to strike the first blow. Circumstances may justify a pre-emptive strike. thanks again Nick looking forward to next video
This is a really good topic. In my opinion, you should always go full force. If something i've learned from watching Nick's vids is that miss reading a situation or making false assumption of what is happening can easily get you kill. Nice work man, keep it up!
Thanks a whole bunch Nick, for this all-important and ethically responsible video. This has always been my top concern, when it comes to self defense scenarios. The fact that you have taken the time to address this tricky issue shows a high level of social and ethical responsibility. Excellent, and as usual realistic, advice.
Do you have any tips on self defense for a a woman of 5ft 110 pds against a 6ft 190 pd (scenario) I can't reach throats and I lack arm length. Easy to get swooped up.
I read somewhere California has a stand your ground law, if you feel threatened and tried multiple times to diffuse the fight, but he keeps coming, you could fight back instead of literally running away.
The best way to avoid these situations entirely, is to stay away from places, where you know something physical could escalate. Especially bars, and clubs, where dumb asses has "liquid courage" pumping through their system.
Brilliant Nick! I guess you do have to use common sense, if people follow your philosophy of diffusing the situation until you have to attack then they have a perfect defence. Either the coppers will not charge you or you'll be acquitted at court. In the UK, the basic law is you can use "reasonable force in the circumstances you honestly believe them to be." Even if the force is slightly disproportionate, you have a defence. You only run into difficulty when you use grossly disproportionate force, and you've pretty much advised that you don't need to strike the neck if you're just escorting someone out. By the way, did you intend that pun with "knock yourselves out"? :P
That's why it's good to learn self-defense with choke escapes because you can escape the choke or avoid the neck attack and come back to win the fight via TKO punches etc… You have to be smart on tiring the guy out or just wasting him… Peace.
Great video. An important note is that how the law is used in practice is about as important as what it formally says in the lawbook. The law itself is very vague, and like you say a grey area. It's how it's used and interpreted in practice that decides what exactly goes for appropriate level of force in the specific situation and thats what determines whether or not you get sentenced for it. Knowledge about how it's used in practice can be gained through going through verdicts in specifik cases.
A long time ago, this happened to my friend's older brother. He was at a bar, and a drunk man was arguing outside with a woman and it turned physical. The drunk guy punched the woman, and my friend's brother intervened for her. He ended up knocking out the drunk, who fell backwards and hit his head and died. It was a freak accident, my friend didn't use excessive force, and he ended serving years in jail. It was an awful situation.
Nick you mentioned striking preemptive is considered as self-defense in Canada. But I wonder how you will justify preemptive striking when the police actually comes, or even when someone decides to press charges?
Im in Texas. I think the laws here are in favor of the person being attacked. Meaning if someone attacks you in any way you have legal right to take whatever action you deem necessary to defend yourself . I am not 100% on this though. Anyone know about Texas ? Either way what Nick says here is a good moral way of being.
OK he punch me I'll punch him back, simple as that. An eye for an eye.
What if he just shoves my shoulders? It's not damaging to me but I wouldn't know what he's going to do next. Shall I chop his neck?
What if he never touch me at all but just keep blocking my way? Should I give the first punch to try knock him down or just shove him away and wait for him to strike first?
haha oh man you should see how ridiculous California laws are. Like one guy broke into someone's house by breaking and entering a window. His dumb ass cut himself then sued the owners because he hurt himself on their property even though he trespassed , vandalized and entered the owner's home.
The only self defense instructor who covered this subtle yet very important point. You are great Nick. And for everyone out there who isn't a blackbelt or something; martial art is just a part of self defense not wholly the thing. Learn the basics jab cross kick block, practice it and you are good to go.
Thanks for the video!
Nick is this law different for every country/state
great video Nick & responsible of you to cover it. As well as teaching I work doors in UK so I have to deal with the reality/legality of using force on a regular basis & it's interesting reading about the various countries interpretation of law in regards to self defense.
UK law is very clear on self-defence. it says:
If any person has an honestly held belief that he or another is in imminent danger, then he may use such force as is reasonable and necessary to avert that danger.
Furthermore, a person about to be attacked does not have to wait for his assailant to strike the first blow. Circumstances may justify a pre-emptive strike.
thanks again Nick looking forward to next video
he's correct about the amount of force used… if the other guy stops, you stop too…
This is a really good topic. In my opinion, you should always go full force. If something i've learned from watching Nick's vids is that miss reading a situation or making false assumption of what is happening can easily get you kill. Nice work man, keep it up!
My mom got pushed down the stairs and then the assailant tried to grab me when I confronted him. Now I risk two years in jail.
Thanks a whole bunch Nick, for this all-important and ethically responsible video. This has always been my top concern, when it comes to self defense scenarios. The fact that you have taken the time to address this tricky issue shows a high level of social and ethical responsibility. Excellent, and as usual realistic, advice.
Do you have any tips on self defense for a a woman of 5ft 110 pds against a 6ft 190 pd (scenario) I can't reach throats and I lack arm length. Easy to get swooped up.
I read somewhere California has a stand your ground law, if you feel threatened and tried multiple times to diffuse the fight, but he keeps coming, you could fight back instead of literally running away.
I think there might one space to much between 'and and 'legal in the title :)
The best way to avoid these situations entirely, is to stay away from places, where you know something physical could escalate. Especially bars, and clubs, where dumb asses has "liquid courage" pumping through their system.
Brilliant Nick! I guess you do have to use common sense, if people follow your philosophy of diffusing the situation until you have to attack then they have a perfect defence. Either the coppers will not charge you or you'll be acquitted at court. In the UK, the basic law is you can use "reasonable force in the circumstances you honestly believe them to be." Even if the force is slightly disproportionate, you have a defence. You only run into difficulty when you use grossly disproportionate force, and you've pretty much advised that you don't need to strike the neck if you're just escorting someone out.
By the way, did you intend that pun with "knock yourselves out"? :P
Great Video I was hoping for a quite a bit of time that, you would make a video like this thanks Nick!! :D
Very helpful video. Great Job!
this has been a PSA with Nick. LOL
Well made clear ! Welldone !!
That's why it's good to learn self-defense with choke escapes because you can escape the choke or avoid the neck attack and come back to win the fight via TKO punches etc… You have to be smart on tiring the guy out or just wasting him… Peace.
Great video. An important note is that how the law is used in practice is about as important as what it formally says in the lawbook. The law itself is very vague, and like you say a grey area. It's how it's used and interpreted in practice that decides what exactly goes for appropriate level of force in the specific situation and thats what determines whether or not you get sentenced for it. Knowledge about how it's used in practice can be gained through going through verdicts in specifik cases.
That's a good video and good advice!
I will always use full force when a stranger wants to fight.. great video man !
A long time ago, this happened to my friend's older brother. He was at a bar, and a drunk man was arguing outside with a woman and it turned physical. The drunk guy punched the woman, and my friend's brother intervened for her. He ended up knocking out the drunk, who fell backwards and hit his head and died. It was a freak accident, my friend didn't use excessive force, and he ended serving years in jail. It was an awful situation.
Great and usefull advices man.You are awesome and perfectly right.Your response must depend on the circumstances.
Nick you mentioned striking preemptive is considered as self-defense in Canada. But I wonder how you will justify preemptive striking when the police actually comes, or even when someone decides to press charges?
All of your videos are very useful.good job and thanks..🖒🖒
Im in Texas. I think the laws here are in favor of the person being attacked. Meaning if someone attacks you in any way you have legal right to take whatever action you deem necessary to defend yourself .
I am not 100% on this though. Anyone know about Texas ?
Either way what Nick says here is a good moral way of being.
Can you elbow the throat ?
OK he punch me I'll punch him back, simple as that. An eye for an eye.
What if he just shoves my shoulders? It's not damaging to me but I wouldn't know what he's going to do next. Shall I chop his neck?
What if he never touch me at all but just keep blocking my way? Should I give the first punch to try knock him down or just shove him away and wait for him to strike first?