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Self Defense Against Someone Who Feels No Pain?

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Baz Bradford says:

Hey Mike, Great video (as always). Greetings from Perth, Australia. Long time subscriber to the channel and really appreciate your content and the way in which you deliver it. I can attest to crackhead strength. We have a really bad Meth problem here in Perth and I was out with friends in our main entertainment precinct about 5 years ago when I got jumped. I'm glad I can hold my own but lost three teeth during this incident and nearly got stabbed. Anyways keep up the awesome work man. Hope to make it stateside and do some training with you. Stay safe

C says:

Pain Compliance still has to follow the golden rule "no submission before position." Pain only becomes compliance when that's their only option. In other words you already need to have control or at least a very dominant position to employ this.

Relatively speaking.. the average person must increase their violent intent to achieve anything that looks like "pain compliance."

But in reality… pain compliance is a reduction in violence.. You' have to be in position to do some serious damage in the first place to get it. Meanwhile it's still a reduction in violence by definition as you can't just break whatever you're holding because then you probably lose whatever lock was keeping them in position giving you dominance … and now their body is pumping them full of endorphins (natural pain killers) meaning if they weren't already methed out they are now lol

Jim Plummer says:

Mike, you need to say that you delt with those experience BECAUSE you were a cop. That was your JOB. To emphasize the point, thats its not likely to happen to you. I love that you try to make the point thar, fear of crime is the worst. But then you tell a super sensational, dramatic, scary story. And you just need to remind people, thar its not a common, or likely to happen to them.

Janos M says:

make more QAs this was pretty good!

Mavis Recon says:

Is there a tool called "Leaving Portland"? That'd fix it.

Chrizzle94 says:

"crackhead strength" Is something that most of us have. Its a concept I like to call "Opening a baby's hand", Many times you'll hear parents say that baby's have unreal grip strength and trying to open there hands up and take what they have is really difficult. The reality is that its not that difficult, you're just limiting your own strength out of fear of hurting the baby's hands. This concept generally applies to most grappling situations when people are of sound mind. Your example of the underwear man fits it perfectly because you said the second the fight started the FIRST THING you said was "guys don't hurt him". So it took 7 of you to control him because your trying to find that gap of control without over exertion that could lead to hurting the guy. The only advice I was given by a former FED was that if pain compliance doesn't work or they are hopped up on drugs and don't feel anything, Pin and wait for them to gas out or start breaking things.

Simon Jäger says:

THANK YOU! I'm so sick and tired of the whole idea of "you have to be prepared for a superhumanly strong predator leaping out of the bushes while on superextramegadrugs(c) and wants to cook your heart in a stew and use your ripped off arm to stir the pot" type of argumentation on why you need to learn how to protect yourself, while completely shooting down the idea of domestic violence being the most common situation of violence, and there being no need for learning how to defend against that. I've spent years, both as a student and an instructor of Krav Maga, and the fact that there is ZERO in either the IKMF or KMG curriculums for defending against an abusive spouse, while there are detailed procedures for how to take down a person armed with an assault rifle in an airplane hijacking situation is more than enough to explain why I got fed up and quit…

Pedro Medrano says:

This was nice, I liked the applied principles that you always mention

Krispy says:

This was informative, great to hear your story.

Justin K. Winley says:

You hit the nail on the head with all these examples. Pain is a warning—you might be pissed off at your drunk cousin but you’d still care about him enough to slap an ude garami on him until he says uncle. That’s different from tearing his shoulder out of socket so he can’t grab anymore Smirnoff Ices.

TLDR: In situations of crisis, choose to disable rather than deter.

Kung Fu Xuésheng says:

Would a flashlight also be a viable option?
I remember one of your earlier videos you spoke about the benefits and efficacy of using flashlights

Kieran B says:

I like hearing about your war stories

xKaydo says:

I’m a rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6 mf but I’m not with the dumbass dudes who don’t know and aren’t willing to deescalate and retreat first. If a conflict starts though you always gotta remember you’re only good to go about 1 level higher than they are. So if a guy threatens to beat you, you are justified to bring a knife out. If he said he wanted to stab you a gun is more than appropriate, but you don’t whip a gun out Willy nilly like a fucking cowboy.

Zulphur says:

Keep your Friends Close but your enemies closer

Mazal Top YoYos says:

Amphetamine doesn't make a person not feel pain. Cocaine makes people not feel pain, and so do opiates. Also, as you mentioned, dealing the damage isn't about inflicting pain, it's about neutralizing or inflicting damage that renders them unable to continue fighting (not just pain, but physical damage such as a Knockout, broken leg or legs giving out etc.)

Karate lifestyle says:

I like the Q&A format and how everything (almost) that is basically common sense self-defense tactics in the US is illegal in Canada 😄🇨🇦

Andy says:

All guys are bigger than IcyMike. Lol

Dirt Diver says:

This was very good, I learned a thing

Jonah Larson says:

As a healthcare security officer. I can vouch, meth heads are a small percentage of the calls we even respond to. The super strength is 100% true. Had a 90lb 16yr old kid lift over 315lbs of police and security off of them while hand cuffed in a chair. Was not a fun time. You're more likely going to encounter what was said in this video way more than methheads. From my experience, meth heads prefer to be secluded and isolated when high (when it's possible for them). You're more likely to deal with someone going through delerium, psychosis, or just having a plain old mental break. Understanding empty hand combatives training is CRUCIAL, no matter who you are, whether you cary weapons or not. Because there is going to be a good chance, that the distance between you and them will be too short to draw your weapon in the first place. In the province I work in for healthcare security, the only defence tools we get are our stab vest, slash gloves, and our hands. We are not even allowed to use our hand cuffs as weapons unless it is life or death (which is virtually never). So Understanding the basics of fighting and wrestling is crucial. This all applies to everday life too. It's never a bad thing to know how or to understand fighting. Because when you do understand and know, you will be able to analyze situations and predict them before they come to fruition. Not to mention, you will then also understand what fights to avoid, and which ones are ones you probably should initiate, or be ready for.

Tylon Taylor says:

I feel really bad for the guy. Never had I pitied a criminal before.

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