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I'm the guy who recorded the encounter, and there are a handful of criticisms in the comments–many are legit.
First off, when the encounter first happened, I had no idea what was going to transpire. All I saw was the old guy getting violently thrown out of the bar. Since I had no idea what was going on, I figured the best thing to do is record. Mainly it was in case the group of people started beating him. Would you want to go against a group of drunks? Probably not. At that point in time, there was zero reason to call the police.
After the initial confrontation where the group ejected the guy from the bar, the situation should have ended. Guy with the baseball cap continued putting his hands on the old man. I continued recording, again, because I thought the old guy might get assaulted.
Then the knife came out. I thought to myself that everyone would go inside and disengage. Of course not, not when alcohol is involved. At that point I realized that the video I was recording would be evidence of a crime against the old man, so I continued recording.
Once the blade came out, I figured the entire group would disengage and go inside the bar. No such luck. I considered drawing my firearm, but I knew once that happened it may escalate the situation AND I would end up dealing with the police FOR SURE. The old man really didn't seem like much of a threat. He could easily have been dealt with by controlling the arm and delivering a solid punch to his face or stomach. Guy definitely looked pretty frail and intoxicated. Or the group could have just gone inside.
After the group finally separated and got inside, I continued recording. Sure, you can criticize me for verbally engaging with the old man, fine. I was sober, and I train in something called Krav Maga, and I'm prior combat arms. NO, I was not looking for a reason to shoot him. Anyone who thinks like that should not have a firearm. At no point was the old guy in close enough range to harm me. The video seems like he was closer than he really was. We always had a safe separation between us, and I am confident in my empty-handed skills.
When I walked to my car, I thought about getting in and leaving. I really did. But I also realized that this guy was dangerous and the police would be looking for him. If I left the scene, the old guy might also get away before the police showed up. So I decided to stay with a safe distance between us. At that point the police arrived and took him into custody.
Criticize away.. I certainly would have done that situation better after going through it once. I should have used verbal judo to separate the group and get them to go inside. I also could have physically intervened, but would have had to stop recording. I do not regret NOT pulling my gun at all. I also do not regret recording the video, which was immediately turned over to the police.
Oh and it turns out the old man was the ride I was waiting for. The police pointed to his phone after the arrest and noted that the Uber app was running, and that the driver (me) cancelled the pickup.
This video is full of unnecessary activity and poor decisions, but for some reason the thing that bothers me the most is how people keep restraining their "friends" ( or whatever they are ) WHILE they're in the danger zone. Do they not realize that all they're doing is diminishing their friend's ability to defend themselves? Restrain your friends BEFORE they enter/re-enter the fray. Once they're in it, either help them or stay out of it. If the primary drunk's BAC wasn't .3, that kind of stupidity could have gotten someone slashed.
The whole exchange with the knife out made me cringe just waiting for someone to be stabbed. Lucky he wasn’t 20 years younger and more spry. Nobody was prepared for this type of encounter. They need to start covering their ASP with our boy John.
God bless all of the world لا حول ولا قوة الا بالله العلى العظيم الحمد لله والنعمة لله يارب رحمتك وعفوك ورضاك يارب اللهم اشفى كل مريض يارب الحمد لله الذى عافنى بما ابتلى بيه غيرى وفضلنى عن كثيراً من عبادة الصالحين يارب عفوك ورحمتك ورضاك يارب
The uber driver should have not said anything to him. He would have stumbled off without getting close to a confrontation with the uber driver. The second guy should have grabbed his arm and took that knife away from him. Yes OC spray would have choked him out I think.
Two negatives. The women always aggravate drunks keep them away, second is camera guy interacting with drunk after it was over. He probably thought he was holding him around for cops to arrive but he wouldn't of made it another 10 feet had camera guy not interacted with him anyway.
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I'm the guy who recorded the encounter, and there are a handful of criticisms in the comments–many are legit.
First off, when the encounter first happened, I had no idea what was going to transpire. All I saw was the old guy getting violently thrown out of the bar. Since I had no idea what was going on, I figured the best thing to do is record. Mainly it was in case the group of people started beating him. Would you want to go against a group of drunks? Probably not. At that point in time, there was zero reason to call the police.
After the initial confrontation where the group ejected the guy from the bar, the situation should have ended. Guy with the baseball cap continued putting his hands on the old man. I continued recording, again, because I thought the old guy might get assaulted.
Then the knife came out. I thought to myself that everyone would go inside and disengage. Of course not, not when alcohol is involved. At that point I realized that the video I was recording would be evidence of a crime against the old man, so I continued recording.
Once the blade came out, I figured the entire group would disengage and go inside the bar. No such luck. I considered drawing my firearm, but I knew once that happened it may escalate the situation AND I would end up dealing with the police FOR SURE. The old man really didn't seem like much of a threat. He could easily have been dealt with by controlling the arm and delivering a solid punch to his face or stomach. Guy definitely looked pretty frail and intoxicated. Or the group could have just gone inside.
After the group finally separated and got inside, I continued recording. Sure, you can criticize me for verbally engaging with the old man, fine. I was sober, and I train in something called Krav Maga, and I'm prior combat arms. NO, I was not looking for a reason to shoot him. Anyone who thinks like that should not have a firearm. At no point was the old guy in close enough range to harm me. The video seems like he was closer than he really was. We always had a safe separation between us, and I am confident in my empty-handed skills.
When I walked to my car, I thought about getting in and leaving. I really did. But I also realized that this guy was dangerous and the police would be looking for him. If I left the scene, the old guy might also get away before the police showed up. So I decided to stay with a safe distance between us. At that point the police arrived and took him into custody.
Criticize away.. I certainly would have done that situation better after going through it once. I should have used verbal judo to separate the group and get them to go inside. I also could have physically intervened, but would have had to stop recording. I do not regret NOT pulling my gun at all. I also do not regret recording the video, which was immediately turned over to the police.
Oh and it turns out the old man was the ride I was waiting for. The police pointed to his phone after the arrest and noted that the Uber app was running, and that the driver (me) cancelled the pickup.
A bunch of soyboys who couldn't handle the situation. First they couldn't deescalate and later they couldn't stop the threat.
Greetz from Germany
Is it me? Or does it feel like im watching in .5 slow speed?
Good ole haverhill, bzck at it again 😂😂
This video is full of unnecessary activity and poor decisions, but for some reason the thing that bothers me the most is how people keep restraining their "friends" ( or whatever they are ) WHILE they're in the danger zone. Do they not realize that all they're doing is diminishing their friend's ability to defend themselves? Restrain your friends BEFORE they enter/re-enter the fray. Once they're in it, either help them or stay out of it. If the primary drunk's BAC wasn't .3, that kind of stupidity could have gotten someone slashed.
If you are not engaging, get the heck out of the way!
That cop tried pushing him thru the window . that dumb little guy almost got hit with that knife over an over again.awww so many mistakes
The whole exchange with the knife out made me cringe just waiting for someone to be stabbed. Lucky he wasn’t 20 years younger and more spry. Nobody was prepared for this type of encounter. They need to start covering their ASP with our boy John.
Nothing de-escalates a situation better than a screaming walrus.
God bless all of the world
لا حول ولا قوة الا بالله العلى العظيم الحمد لله والنعمة لله يارب رحمتك وعفوك ورضاك يارب اللهم اشفى كل مريض يارب الحمد لله الذى عافنى بما ابتلى بيه غيرى وفضلنى عن كثيراً من عبادة الصالحين يارب عفوك ورحمتك ورضاك يارب
You gang up the old man dude. You should just leave alone after being thrown out but you assault him still.
Them are some big women.
That's bull, the uber driver said he has a knife on him somewhere.
The uber driver should have not said anything to him. He would have stumbled off without getting close to a confrontation with the uber driver. The second guy should have grabbed his arm and took that knife away from him. Yes OC spray would have choked him out I think.
No one does drunk like a Southie!
I'm sixty years old and still like getting pissy drunk… my ambition to say one day. Not.
I dont know about this, I know hes a stupid drunk, I've had mutiple experiences with drunks, but I feel bad for that guy, hes an old weak guy.
funny how the drunk guy thought of himself as the victim.
That bar is full of mentally and physically disabled people!
7:11 the infamous HEMI tick
Sorry but it seems to me everybody were drunk 🥴 except the Uber Guy 🚙 it could be worse
STUPID PEOPLE !! THAT GUY WAS CLOSE TO BEING DEAD !!!
Morons need to understand DO NOT GRAB THE GUY DEFENDING HIMSELF!!! All you idiots do is make a stationary target easier for the attacker to hit.
4:40 seconds in and i think everyone knows John is going to say "ego battles" 3-5 times in the breakdown.
Two negatives. The women always aggravate drunks keep them away, second is camera guy interacting with drunk after it was over. He probably thought he was holding him around for cops to arrive but he wouldn't of made it another 10 feet had camera guy not interacted with him anyway.
Feels like home