Berkeley California Riots: Is Self Defense from Violence OK?
This video is for all the corrections on information I did not get correctly. although not all the info I reported was false, I did not give enough info on the situation.
I also said that this situation was at UC Berkeley campus and said that these were people possibly w money, young rich kids, I was wrong, its Berkeley California, not the campus, I apologize.
I will get details and information wrong from time to time, for that I apologize, and I saw THANK YOU to all those whom spoke up and told me I was incorrect, it helps me grow as a person, and I appreciate everyone letting me know.
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UC Berkeley Riots Antifa Trump Protest:
More Rioting at UC Berkeley protests that got VIOLENT! WHY cant we just peacefully talk about ideas?!
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self defense does not only apply on an individual level. Self defense of ides especially free speech is also protected. The first amendment is backed up by the second. Simple system.
I can't stand Antifa, but I don't want them to get hurt or killed. They tend to be puny and scrawny, so they're no match for many men. They also throw bombs at people, and they may get shot if they lob the wrong weapon at the wrong person. I just read that they want to get even more violent at future events, so it may just be a matter of time before some of them pass on to the next life.
Hey, if someone is attacking me I'm not going to just sit there and be a pacifist, and I suggest the rest of you do the same thing. They say violence against violence is just never ending, but that isn't true. The more you let someone push you around, the more they will take advantage of you. This isn't the time for this non violence hippie shit, because we all know, that all these people attacking DO NOT FEEL THE SAME WAY, peace is a partnership, and as long as they keep poking the bear they will get what they deserve, in proportion of course to the amount of physical harm they are inflicting, until they learn their damn lesson and stop.
The sad thing is that stuff like this won't stop. People are too wrapped up in thinking their opinion is the only one that matters and will refuse to listen to another opinion without confrontation of some kind. And it comes as no surprise to me that this happens in California. I lived near LA when the 1992 riots happened (I was very young but even then I didn't understand why people would say it's about Rodney King when it just seemed more like emotions running high and a perfect time to loot and create anarchy). I don't have any friend or family member that agrees with me 100% and that's the beautiful thing. You learn more when you listen to different views and the most beautiful thing of all with that is that we are all free to have different opinions and express them in a non violent way. Violence in most cases is never the answer. If you are trying to raise awareness or promote an idea, nobody will listen if you do it in a violent way. Glad I don't live in California anymore because from what I'm seeing things keep escalating and next thing you know they will end up like the 1992 LA riots.
That's all nice and good,but its just as important to know what you are dealing with. Defusing the situation doesn't work with terrorists. You'll just end up being met with violence. Terrorists see any and all attempts to diffuse a situation as a sign of weakness. The only thing that they understand is violence and control. Therefore,the only means of defense at that point becomes an equal dose of violence and control.
It was interesting to me watching the protestors continue to attack people attending the rally when they were down and not fighting and the people who attended the rally punching the protestors once then helping them up and keeping them safe when they went down and stopped fighting.
Masked people dressed in black, carrying sticks for swinging, bricks, rocks and explosives for throwing, have no interest in defusing the situation. I now will not go to a free speech rally unarmed.
This was a right rally, the poster said, if you come to protest this expect to be attacked. The antifa started hurling rocks, m80s, broken glass and curb stomping or macing people …. including a vet and the elderly. The right started fighting back without weapons mind you because they were taken off the right before the event started. The police promised to protect this rally if the right would give up thier weapons… Many people were injured and this ended because someone let off a smoke bomb which blew back towards them
To me if a mob is throwing fireworks , smoke bombs, macing people and some idiot that said " determined to bring back 100 nazi scalps ." comes charging in while others are attacking my friends yeah violence is the only thing left to do.
What about war…? Honestly Put aside the political stuff and aspects But what about war ? Needed violence due to others affecting maybe not you but something or some one else That's not defending yourself at a point So what about war Now I'm not trying to sound ignorant and stubborn I just genuinely want to know
Well after being attacked every time there is a Trump rally.You know Trump supporters eventually will get tired of being attacked and are starting to fight back.
I agree with your point on this Joy, but I also see in this instance allot of people fed up with Antifa and lashing out. I hope this is the end of Antifa but I fear this is the beginning of something worse. Antifa has been the bully long enough and the general public is tired of "taking it". They would show up at relatively peaceful protests and press for violence, everyone would back down trying to keep things civil. I think that's over on both sides. City officials are going to have to make their police forces take action instead of standing on the sidelines as they have on so many of these events. Time will tell, and I hope I'm wrong, but I think America is on the precipice of a national emergency.
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Antifa – watch what they do in other videos it's pretty disgusting the tactics that they use.
self defense does not only apply on an individual level. Self defense of ides especially free speech is also protected. The first amendment is backed up by the second. Simple system.
I can't stand Antifa, but I don't want them to get hurt or killed. They tend to be puny and scrawny, so they're no match for many men. They also throw bombs at people, and they may get shot if they lob the wrong weapon at the wrong person. I just read that they want to get even more violent at future events, so it may just be a matter of time before some of them pass on to the next life.
This makes more sense. You likely just confused yourself in the other clip because you rushed through it like your motel room was on fire.
Hey, if someone is attacking me I'm not going to just sit there and be a pacifist, and I suggest the rest of you do the same thing. They say violence against violence is just never ending, but that isn't true. The more you let someone push you around, the more they will take advantage of you. This isn't the time for this non violence hippie shit, because we all know, that all these people attacking DO NOT FEEL THE SAME WAY, peace is a partnership, and as long as they keep poking the bear they will get what they deserve, in proportion of course to the amount of physical harm they are inflicting, until they learn their damn lesson and stop.
The sad thing is that stuff like this won't stop. People are too wrapped up in thinking their opinion is the only one that matters and will refuse to listen to another opinion without confrontation of some kind. And it comes as no surprise to me that this happens in California. I lived near LA when the 1992 riots happened (I was very young but even then I didn't understand why people would say it's about Rodney King when it just seemed more like emotions running high and a perfect time to loot and create anarchy). I don't have any friend or family member that agrees with me 100% and that's the beautiful thing. You learn more when you listen to different views and the most beautiful thing of all with that is that we are all free to have different opinions and express them in a non violent way. Violence in most cases is never the answer. If you are trying to raise awareness or promote an idea, nobody will listen if you do it in a violent way. Glad I don't live in California anymore because from what I'm seeing things keep escalating and next thing you know they will end up like the 1992 LA riots.
That's all nice and good,but its just as important to know what you are dealing with. Defusing the situation doesn't work with terrorists. You'll just end up being met with violence. Terrorists see any and all attempts to diffuse a situation as a sign of weakness. The only thing that they understand is violence and control. Therefore,the only means of defense at that point becomes an equal dose of violence and control.
It was interesting to me watching the protestors continue to attack people attending the rally when they were down and not fighting and the people who attended the rally punching the protestors once then helping them up and keeping them safe when they went down and stopped fighting.
Masked people dressed in black, carrying sticks for swinging, bricks, rocks and explosives for throwing, have no interest in defusing the situation. I now will not go to a free speech rally unarmed.
Antifa commies deserved it. They started it after all and we kicked their asses when we just had a peaceful gathering. Viva la Trump!!
This was a right rally, the poster said, if you come to protest this expect to be attacked. The antifa started hurling rocks, m80s, broken glass and curb stomping or macing people …. including a vet and the elderly. The right started fighting back without weapons mind you because they were taken off the right before the event started. The police promised to protect this rally if the right would give up thier weapons… Many people were injured and this ended because someone let off a smoke bomb which blew back towards them
To me if a mob is throwing fireworks , smoke bombs, macing people and some idiot that said " determined to bring back 100 nazi scalps ." comes charging in while others are attacking my friends yeah violence is the only thing left to do.
Dont throw the 1st punch but make sure you throw the last punch?
What about war…? Honestly
Put aside the political stuff and aspects
But what about war ?
Needed violence due to others affecting maybe not you but something or some one else
That's not defending yourself at a point
So what about war
Now I'm not trying to sound ignorant and stubborn I just genuinely want to know
Well after being attacked every time there is a Trump rally.You know Trump supporters eventually will get tired of being attacked and are starting to fight back.
I agree with your point on this Joy, but I also see in this instance allot of people fed up with Antifa and lashing out. I hope this is the end of Antifa but I fear this is the beginning of something worse. Antifa has been the bully long enough and the general public is tired of "taking it". They would show up at relatively peaceful protests and press for violence, everyone would back down trying to keep things civil. I think that's over on both sides. City officials are going to have to make their police forces take action instead of standing on the sidelines as they have on so many of these events. Time will tell, and I hope I'm wrong, but I think America is on the precipice of a national emergency.