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ok – here it comes- the history lesson and why 9mm is the best caliber, man it never gets old- first it was why 38 was not any good, then 257, then 45. i am eventually waiting for 9mm to loose popularity for 380 – because that is what European officers used in WWII ( 9mmKurz) and how easy it is to fire. sigh…….
.30 Super was hanged by its name. Had it been called 7.65 x 21mm maybe I would have been interested. But I'm just not going to pay attention to anything that sounds like it was named at an AARP convention.
I have several 9mm pistols, but my first two handguns were .40s. The thing the .40 has over 9mm is that with the extra energy it has it can be more viable with lower quality/technology hollowpoints than the 9mm can. Yes, new ammunition technology does improve the lethality of both calibers, but since it brings 9mm above the threshold of enough, and because ALL handgun rounds up to and including the magnum revolver rounds suck hot ass when compared to rifles, the 9mm with it's lower recoil and two extra rounds in the mag is a better tradeoff than .40 most of the time.
I still have my Glock 22 and about ten mags for it. I have no intention of ever selling it. I might even get a new one in a couple years. I'm also getting a .357 barrel for it. Being able to use more types of ammunition is nice, especially when shortages come around.
I'll give my insight, but take it for what I'm it is. I used to wrestle in high school. One thing that becomes very apparent early is the difference between weight classes. I was a great wrestler at 145 lbs but if I tried to wrestle 171 and above it was a nightmare. Fast forward to my deployment to Afghanistan in 2012. I began Jiu-jitsu with guys who were training back in the states. I learned very quickly that size and strength were less (not completely) relevant due to skill. Previous to this I carried a 1911 .45 ACP. But I began to think about the modernization of ammunition, the lower recoil, and he extra round count. In wrestling my mindset was bigger= better. After Jiu-jitsu I realized technical ability put in the correct context at the right time = victory. Ive been following that model ever since.
I own multiple pistols and PCCs in .40 but there’s only one of them in my carry rotation and it’s a Sig P226. The rest I keep for carrying in the woods and even those have kinda been replaced by 10mm, 357, 44 special/magnum and even 41 magnum. If you carry a .40S&W you’re really not wrong but 9mm is still kinda just that perfect medium for CCW.
John made a great point about the context where .40 cal was developed. If you go back to basically any point in firearms development you can find the same kind of example. Let us not forget that one of (maybe the first?) handguns designed and sold as a "self defense" firearm was the Smith & Wesson Model 1 revolver chambered in the mighty .22 SHORT. A caliber which I always think looks like someone left a bunch of .22 LR in the dryer for too long on high. I'm sure compared to the more common .44/.45 black powder percussion cap revolvers of the time, the .22 Short solved tons of problems relating to recoil, noise, expense and skill level required to load and carry a cap fired revolver for self defense.
the late Paul Harrel did a video of how the .40 is far superior then the 9MMI would advice yall to buy meat targets, we not made og gell, do your own test and you will see .40 beats all weights, type, offerings from nine mm, 45 acp in 200 grain plus p dose too, but never jumped on the nine mm hype train, the .40, 45, 357 sig, they had to use a .40 case behind a nine mm to make it decent, but teast for your selves, dont take u tube folks or me, what others say, do ur own test. thankfully .40 is picking back up in popularity, folks tired of seeing nine mm on all shelves in gun shops
9mm is cheaper, easier to shoot, and you can squeeze more rounds into MICRO-compact guns. In other words, it's a round for the average, casual carrier. If you're into full-size or duty guns, you want bigger bullets with more energy, creating bigger wounds. There just aren't as many 9mm offerings that produce 400 FPE, with the exception of some 124-grain +P. I prefer full-size guns, and would rather have 15+1 rounds of 180 grains than 17+1 of 124 grains.
I must be really blessed because I just turned 71 a few days ago and I still can shoot both my 10mm guns very well. Both of them have barrels of four inches or less and by the way, I'm just 5' 8" with average sized hands. I don't know if I'm correct in this point but 9mm has become so popular because NATO adopted it as their regular cartridge and gun manufacturers have made their point to make it their most available caliber for their models. I personally like 357 Sig more and it's a shame not even the company that has their name on it sells any of their models in that caliber anymore.
The muzzle energy graphs on Ballistics by the Inch show that various .40 S&W offerings average around 25% more energy out of a 4" barrel than various 9mm offerings.
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ok – here it comes- the history lesson and why 9mm is the best caliber, man it never gets old- first it was why 38 was not any good, then 257, then 45. i am eventually waiting for 9mm to loose popularity for 380 – because that is what European officers used in WWII ( 9mmKurz) and how easy it is to fire. sigh…….
.30 Super was hanged by its name. Had it been called 7.65 x 21mm maybe I would have been interested. But I'm just not going to pay attention to anything that sounds like it was named at an AARP convention.
I have several 9mm pistols, but my first two handguns were .40s. The thing the .40 has over 9mm is that with the extra energy it has it can be more viable with lower quality/technology hollowpoints than the 9mm can. Yes, new ammunition technology does improve the lethality of both calibers, but since it brings 9mm above the threshold of enough, and because ALL handgun rounds up to and including the magnum revolver rounds suck hot ass when compared to rifles, the 9mm with it's lower recoil and two extra rounds in the mag is a better tradeoff than .40 most of the time.
I still have my Glock 22 and about ten mags for it. I have no intention of ever selling it. I might even get a new one in a couple years. I'm also getting a .357 barrel for it. Being able to use more types of ammunition is nice, especially when shortages come around.
I'll give my insight, but take it for what I'm it is. I used to wrestle in high school. One thing that becomes very apparent early is the difference between weight classes. I was a great wrestler at 145 lbs but if I tried to wrestle 171 and above it was a nightmare. Fast forward to my deployment to Afghanistan in 2012. I began Jiu-jitsu with guys who were training back in the states. I learned very quickly that size and strength were less (not completely) relevant due to skill. Previous to this I carried a 1911 .45 ACP. But I began to think about the modernization of ammunition, the lower recoil, and he extra round count. In wrestling my mindset was bigger= better. After Jiu-jitsu I realized technical ability put in the correct context at the right time = victory. Ive been following that model ever since.
I own multiple pistols and PCCs in .40 but there’s only one of them in my carry rotation and it’s a Sig P226. The rest I keep for carrying in the woods and even those have kinda been replaced by 10mm, 357, 44 special/magnum and even 41 magnum. If you carry a .40S&W you’re really not wrong but 9mm is still kinda just that perfect medium for CCW.
John made a great point about the context where .40 cal was developed. If you go back to basically any point in firearms development you can find the same kind of example. Let us not forget that one of (maybe the first?) handguns designed and sold as a "self defense" firearm was the Smith & Wesson Model 1 revolver chambered in the mighty .22 SHORT. A caliber which I always think looks like someone left a bunch of .22 LR in the dryer for too long on high. I'm sure compared to the more common .44/.45 black powder percussion cap revolvers of the time, the .22 Short solved tons of problems relating to recoil, noise, expense and skill level required to load and carry a cap fired revolver for self defense.
the late Paul Harrel did a video of how the .40 is far superior then the 9MMI would advice yall to buy meat targets, we not made og gell, do your own test and you will see .40 beats all weights, type, offerings from nine mm, 45 acp in 200 grain plus p dose too, but never jumped on the nine mm hype train, the .40, 45, 357 sig, they had to use a .40 case behind a nine mm to make it decent, but teast for your selves, dont take u tube folks or me, what others say, do ur own test. thankfully .40 is picking back up in popularity, folks tired of seeing nine mm on all shelves in gun shops
9mm is cheaper, easier to shoot, and you can squeeze more rounds into MICRO-compact guns. In other words, it's a round for the average, casual carrier. If you're into full-size or duty guns, you want bigger bullets with more energy, creating bigger wounds. There just aren't as many 9mm offerings that produce 400 FPE, with the exception of some 124-grain +P. I prefer full-size guns, and would rather have 15+1 rounds of 180 grains than 17+1 of 124 grains.
I carry both 9 mm and 40cal. If I knew I was walking into a gunfight with zombies. I would pick my 40.
Despite all of that I love my S&W 40. The only issue I seem to have is it will not cycle. (Tulamo) ammo with aluminum casings
very interesting thx x
1:16 as usual, John, you are wrong. It’s the 10mm kurz.
I must be really blessed because I just turned 71 a few days ago and I still can shoot both my 10mm guns very well. Both of them have barrels of four inches or less and by the way, I'm just 5' 8" with average sized hands.
I don't know if I'm correct in this point but 9mm has become so popular because NATO adopted it as their regular cartridge and gun manufacturers have made their point to make it their most available caliber for their models.
I personally like 357 Sig more and it's a shame not even the company that has their name on it sells any of their models in that caliber anymore.
The muzzle energy graphs on Ballistics by the Inch show that various .40 S&W offerings average around 25% more energy out of a 4" barrel than various 9mm offerings.